The Greatest Closer Of The 1990’s/2000’s

…is not Mariano Rivera.  It is Trevor Hoffman.  I am not saying this because of Hoffman’s save record.  Saves, while the statistic that closers are generally measured by, is not representive of a closer’s performance, because the closers’ teammates drastically effect the number of save opportunities a closer gets, which to a certain extent determines the number of saves recorded.  Rivera was at the top of this luck, while Hoffman was near the bottom, I am not saying that Rivera would have been an average closer on a different team, I am simply saying that Hoffman was better.

  • During his career, teams with Trevor Hoffman have gone a combined 1258-1365.  Hoffman has saved 575 (46%) of his teams’ wins.
  • During his career, teams with Mariano Rivera have gone a combined 1225-807.  Rivera has saved 508 (41%) of his teams’ wins.

Mariano Rivera is acclaimed for winning championships, he won them as a cog in the Yankee Machine.  Trevor Hoffman was the pitching soul of the Friars, just as Tony Gwynn was their hitting soul, he didn’t win a title, but he drove a losing team.  Mariano Rivera has the legacy, but Trevor Hoffman has the soul.  For what he has done with mediocre teams, trumps what Mariano has done with a New York dynasty.  Trevor Hoffman is the greatest of his generation.

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5 comments

  1. santosis

    By any metric that assess performance, Rivera is leagues ahead of Hoffman. In fact, if one trusts ERA+ as a metric, than Rivera is the greatest pitcher in his era of any pitcher in the history of baseball. And second place isn’t even close. Rivera is also 16th all-time in ERA (Hoffman is 88th) and 3rd in WHIP (Hoffman is 5th).

    In fact, I would argue that playing for the Yankees hurt Rivera’s numbers, since his team wins more games in non-save situations, thus giving Hoffman more chances.

    They are both great closers, and it pains me to say this as a Red Sox fan, but Rivera is the greatest closer of all-time by a ridiculous margin.

    • paintingtheblack

      All- I admit I came up with a very flawed argument for Hoffman. Rivera probably is the better pitcher. I guess bad arguments are a by-product of a yankee-hating mood. 🙂

  2. jbucky007

    I totally disagree. Rivera has a way better ERA, a better WHIP and a better record. Also the stats used in your argument are totally irrelevant.

  3. popejonash

    I also disagree that Hoffman is the best. Rivera is head and shoulders above ANY other closer in history.To pick up on the point made by Santosis about non-save chances and blowouts, since 1996 the Yankees have won 445 games by 5 runs or more.By comparison, the Padres have won 270 games by 5 or more runs in that same period. The numbers sadly aren’t even close. Santosis was spot on – Mo wins be a ‘ridiculous margin’ Ashhttp://ashleymarshall.mlblogs.com

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